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From: BYA Service department

Sent:        Monday, December 11, 2009 4:54 PM

To:            ‘Eric Smith’ President, BYA

Subject:  Why perform the major fit out of your boat in Annapolis rather than at the

factory—Also see note at the end comparing pricing programs!

Where, and how, you get your boat commissioned, sets the stage for establishing the real cost, and for how much you're going to enjoy your boat over the next several years. Don't take my word for it, see what our clients say! http://www.bayacht.com/resource/password/Insider/testimonials.pdf

After commissioning 1,000's of boats for the last 37 years, we've figured out the best way to offer you the very best commissioning, at the very best price. Our process is so good, that we guarantee it! Click on the logo to see our "Best price, best service guarantee". This program is why we're the number one dealer for both Jeanneau and Fountaine Pajot in North America--we've sold more boats (to happy owners) than anyone.

So, to answer some of your questions, I asked our service manager to share his thoughts.

You asked me to share some thoughts about why we have been so successful getting such great “Satisfaction Reviews” after commissioning our clients boat. Here they are…

When purchasing your new boat there are a number of decisions that have to be made regarding outfitting and commissioning. There are two primary paths to follow; those items that are supplied and fitted by the factory either during or following construction completion, and those items fitted upon arrival of your boat here in Annapolis. Many buyers equate “accessorizing” their new boat with the equivalent of specifying items for a new car. Some buyers may even remember “back in the old days” when aftermarket (and even dealer installed) air-conditioning was the way this option found its way into the cars. Quite frankly, compared to “factory equipped”, the aftermarket alternative was unattractive, took up leg room under the dash and, in many cases, didn’t work as “original equipment” factory installed air-conditioning. Though this is just one example equipping your new car with a radio, lights, and other accessories were pretty much the same compromise.

The ultimate fit out of your new boat is quite a bit different in many respects than the car analogy. Boat builders are aware that a mix of additional electronic and mechanical items will be added to the finished ready to sail boat. To a great extent they design adequate space for these items that, if not fitted, will serve as additional storage areas.

Either during production, or after the boat has been completed, the factory will have commissioners fit selected items. (In order not to disrupt production, some items that are not typically installed on the typical boat, are fitted after the boat comes off the production line.)

FROM ERIC: “These European builders build a much larger volume of boats because they serve a world wide market. Because of their volume production, there are volume and efficiency savings which makes these boats be more than competitive price wise. However, because of the world wide nature of this market, there are many options that are better fitted locally, if the local dealer has the capability.  The U.S. market takes up approximately 20% of our manufacturers production of larger boats.”

The French, and specifically Jeanneau for monohulls and Fountaine-Pajot for catamarans, primarily build and fit out boats for compatibility with the European 220 volt, 50Hz electrical standard. Items meeting our 110 volt, 60Hz requirements by and large are supplied from the United States, shipped to France, installed, then the boat is shipped back to the U.S. for delivery to you. The shipping alone adds to the pricing of these type electrical items but other factors should be considered as well. Installation at the factory during or immediately following production of your new boat does not take into account personal input into either the placement, the resulting loss of storage space, or most importantly whether the equipment brand is well supported in either the U.S. or your intended cruising area. A great example of this is reverse-cycle air conditioning; let’s explore this most common option.

First and foremost we often find that the factory supplied units are undersized for the cruising areas of our clients. The comfort level expectation for France and much of the rest of the world is somewhat different than for American boaters. If you have traveled to Europe and desired a “cold” drink, you are probably lucky to get one ice cube with it! Second the air-conditioning unit takes a relatively large amount of storage space especially when the ducting is considered. At the factory you have no input into either the main unit’s placement or the ducting and therefore how it affects storage. Third are the air-conditioning controls themselves, the factory supplied units have analog controls that work great but do not take advantage of additional capabilities of these units. For example with the digital controls we fit here in Annapolis the unit is capable of automatically switching between cooling and heating by simply setting the desired temperature. An additional feature provided by the digital control allows a relative humidity setting to be made where the air conditioning unit cycles on as needed rather than running continuously effectively acting as a de-humidifier to make mold and mildew a thing of the past. The final reason for electing to fit the air-conditioning here is that the brand that we select has a three year warranty as opposed to only one year and service is well supported along the U.S. east coast, the Bahamas, and throughout the Caribbean.

Other electronic and mechanical items have similar reasons for having them installed here. Rather than going through these individually let’s consider these generally. Most of our clients fit out their new boat for their initial needs and continue the refinement and addition of electronics and mechanical equipment during a period of ownership, usually to fill specific cruising or live aboard requirements, or as their needs and family grows. With this in mind as a possibility from the very outset, as important as the initial fit out, is to allow for addition or expansion of systems. I have seen an inverter/charger needing to be moved 6”-8” to allow for a water maker installation that required complete rewiring of the inverter/charger unnecessarily if accommodation for the later water maker had been made initially.

Our canvas (biminis, dodgers and connectors, plus protective covers) is another example. Europeans just don’t ask for the level of sun protection and spray protection that Americans desire. Our fabricators actually measure you in the cockpit to get a custom fit! (Don’t laugh, the lower the bimini, the better the protection at low sun angles, but, too low, and you’re uncomfortable—the solution is a custom fit!) As a result, our SS frames are more robust and the coverage area larger. We offer many more features to enhance your enjoyment—hand rails, a California style dodger, and more. We use genuine Sunbrella canvas. All of these upgrades extend your enjoyment and extend the life of the equipment.

Our evolved and refined process for complete commissioning in Annapolis is impossible to beat. (We’re not called the Nations "boating capital" for nothing!)  Our commissioning people and electronics people have been working with us for 28 years and both meet on a continuing basis with new clients discussing all of the possibilities for fitting out your boat. They will consider electrical loads, weight placement and all of the factors that go into successful commissioning. When your boat arrives in Annapolis they again meet with the owner to review choices, discuss additional options, and placement of items down to the individual 110 volt electrical outlets and cabin fans. All the time keeping in mind and allowing for system expansion and fitting additional options down the road.

Finally, keep in mind that the manufacturers are building production boats on the line, and equipment not common to all models (again like A/C, generators, upgraded electrical systems, and the like) are often simply installed after production is complete, by French subcontractors! Doesn't it make more sense to do that here where we have total control? We have successfully commissioned 100's of these boats. In fact, more than any other dealer in North America. We have a team in place that does an outstanding job of customizing your investment so that it works perfectly--for your individual cruising lifestyle. Come talk to us... (Side benefit--if there ever is a problem, you don't have to deal with a bunch of finger pointing, sub-contractors--you simply talk to our service manager and he handles the details on your behalf.

What this customer said, about sums up how commissioning can be done right...

We are now halfway into our first week aboard Coexist and couldn't be happier.  Our experience with Bay Yacht from pre-sale thru commissioning and after sale support has been seamless, thanks to you and everyone we have dealt with from Bay Yacht from start to finish.  You made our puchase of the Jeanneau 44i one of the best purchasing experiences we have known.  We only hope that you will be around for our next purchase ... 20 years from now! 

We would especially like to give a big hand to Mark Sims for his project management of the commissioning process. From the first time we met him, we felt a real comfort level in our decision to purchase our boat from Bay Yacht.  Mark and his group worked tirelessly to get  our boat fully commissioned in as timely a manner as possible, considering the rainy season we have experienced and his other commissioning obligations.   Mark has been totally upfront with us from Day 1 and has been a pleasure to work with. His knowledge and experience really helped us make informed decisions about equipment and add-ons that we were considering.   I have worked with many project managers in varied industries throughout my career and can honestly say that Mark is one of, if not the best, I have worked with.  At our turnover/walk-thru, Mark explained every piece of equipment and system and patiently answered all of our questions (and there were many).  We have been relying on the file box Mark put together with all of our systems instructions and warranty information as our "cheat sheet".  As we find punch list items and relay them to Mark, he or one of his crew are here before we can blink. 

Hats off to all of you.  We are truly impressed with our overall experience with Bay Yacht.  Thank you so much for everything.  You're welcome to sail with us anytime
. Steve & Michele W.  MD

A note about “Purchase Price”…

I recently wrote an article comparing some Caribbean Charter companies claims of offering extremely low prices. While this was written concerning catamarans, much of the information applies to monohulls (power and sail) as well.

  1. If you wish to put a catamaran in charter or set it up as a business, the maximum tax advantages only apply if you set it up in U.S. waters (Including U.S.V.I.—we have bases on the E. Coast, the Bahamas and in St. Thomas). If you don’t get the tax advantages—you’re losing at least half of the return that could cover the costs of your boat. Looking at it another way, you need to charter at least twice as much (with twice the wear and tear) to get to the same place as you can with our Boat-As-A-Business Program. For details call 410-263-2311 or go to: http://www.bayacht.com/invest.htm
  2. Are the prices really as low as they (Charter Companies) say? What they don’t tell you is that their prices do not include everything that you will want if you want to use the boat yourself. They typically do not include: Duty (If you want to stay, or return to U.S. waters you will need to pay this), 110V. electrical system done properly, advanced electronics, A/C and generator, electric, fresh water heads, Upgraded 12 and 110 V. System, Engine fire extinguishing systems, helm Bimini, RIB dinghy, advanced anchoring and mooring system and much more. At the end of the day, to update their boats, to our standards will likely cost you more—and may not even be possible. Find out more about how your boat should be set up: http://www.bayacht.com/custom.htm

 

Great commissioning, deserves to be followed up with a great commissioning party! 

So, if you want great commissioning, hook up with the company that guarantees the best service and pricing and also gives great commissioning parties! See one example of a unique commissioning party here!

If you want the straight facts and a straight quote—call us: 410-263-2311. We offer an unprecedented satisfaction and best price guarantee. http://www.bayacht.com/service.htm

For more information, questions or to order a boat—please call us. 410-263-2311

 


Helpful links here...
Practical information gleaned from experienced cruisers, owners, charterers, captains, designers and builders

Choosing a offshore/liveaboard monohull.

Choosing a offshore/liveaboard catamaran.

Information on customizing your boat to your needs: http://www.bayacht.com/custom.htm

What others have said about our service: http://www.bayacht.com/resource/password/Insider/testimonials.pdf 

See all of our latest news and product information at our newsletter, BayViews.

Learn about how to set your boat up--any of the products below, for income and tax advantages. Boat-As-A-Business information here.

Products: Jeanneau (Sail & Power), Fountaine Pajot (Sail & Power), Selene Trawlers, Floating homes. See all of the boats here.

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